Y:
At age 24 you entered the Self-Realization Fellowship monastic order
in California. Why? (What has lead you towards this step?)
T: The very short version is: My earliest memories as a child were centered
around great love for my parents. Shortly after that came a great love
for sports, God and girls. By 18 I knew I didn't want to live the lifestyle
of my parents and so was very eager to go off to college. By the second
year of college (I was 19) I discovered that the girl who I thought
was "the one" and whom I was very much in love with, broke
my heart for another guy. I never wanted to feel the pain of a broken
heart ever again. That left me with sports and God. I knew right then
that only God could mend my heart, not sports. During this time I found
the Autobiography of a Yogi by Paramahansa Yogananda and have not missed
a day of meditation since. That was in 1970.
My dedication to the yoga path led me to applying to be a monk in 1973.
I was accepted a year and a half later after spending those 18 months
cooking for the monks as a resident lay disciple. The reason I went
in and the reason I am more motivated than ever today is for the TOTAL
divine experience of God's love!
Y:You
have been a monk at this monastery for 25 years, can you describe us
what your life was like? T:
Life was extremely focused on service and meditation. The usual day
began with a gong at 5:30am for private meditation. Group meditation
was at 7am. Breakfast at 8am. Work from 8:30-noon. Meditation from noon
to 12:30pm. Then lunch and back to work at 1:30. Work ended at 4:30.
We had 60 minutes for recreation then group meditation at 6pm till 7pm.
Light dinner followed. Then back to work or private meditation and study.
On an average we meditated between 4 to 6 hrs a day. The ashram was
also like a fish bowl. I lived with 90 other monks in very small living
arrangements. You almost couldn't sneeze without everyone knowing about
it. We came from all over the world. We were virtually rubbing shoulders
with each other day after day for many years. You learned to get along
with everyone because if you had sharp edges to your personality, the
constant rubbing of the daily life and interaction would eventually
smooth out even your roughest edges. In a nutshell, life in the ashram
pointed in one direction and one direction only: toward complete surrender
and dedication of one's life to God.
Y:
You met your wife Trisha while you were a monk, this must have been
a major changing point in your life, can you explain to us what happened
with you (both)?
T: I met Trisha after I had been in the ashram about 8 years. I was
giving a sermon at one of the temples and she along with the rest of
the congregation greeted me afterwards. That was the first time I saw
her again in this life. She was pregnant with her first child. That
was in 1982. I was the youth minister to her children growing up in
SRF. As the years went by (and the only time I saw Trisha was in temple
activities such as meditations, lectures and picnics) I knew beyond
a shadow of a doubt that Trisha was a soul friend from past lives. I
told God over and over that this life was for God and that I would get
together with Trisha again next life. The whole story will come out
in our first publication which we hope to have out in 2008.
Y: After spending so many years in the monastery
and than coming back into another society where rent, electricity bills
etc need to be paid and other values dominate every day life; How did
you experience this change in your life? Did you know right away what
you wanted to go do - start Soul of Yoga or where you searching for
a while? T: It was culture shock to say the least. The only thing
I knew was that my spiritual life was going to remain the central focus
of my life. I initially thought I was going to go back to school and
get a master's degree in psychology. This kind of transition I would
not want anyone to have to go through. But if you do, stay true to yourself.
That's what I did. And what staying true to myself means is to always
follow the heart. My meditations and practice of bhakti yoga (devotion)
led me to the right thing that I should do in everything. It led me
to marrying Trisha 8 months after leaving the ashram. She is the safety
of the ashram now for me. Not to mention that she still helps me through
all the practicalities of living in the world. Together we birthed the
Soul of Yoga.
Y: You and Trisha founded Soul of Yoga, please
describe to us what Soul of Yoga is about? It is obviously about a lot
more than some fancy yoga moves. T: The Soul of Yoga is about
one thing: remembering who you really are. We have only two guidelines
for students: 1) honor thyself and 2) practice radical self-acceptance
and self-love. We are about the "how-to's" of day to day spiritual
living. Application of spiritual principles is our passion. We are building
a community of like-minded and like-hearted souls so we can constantly
remind ourselves of our ultimate goal -- Oneness with Source. Hatha
yoga is only one step in Patanjali's 7 step path. It purifies our daily
efforts and puts us in a state of deeper connection with our hearts.
This is why we have named our trainings and programs: Sundara College
(Sundara is Sanskrit for majestic beauty of the soul): Yoga School of
Life.
Y: The yoga you teach seems to be a mix of different
styles/influences raja yoga, hatha yoga, kundalini yoga and yoga flow
I think to have recognized could you describe us what you offer during
your yoga class. There seems to be a message on both spiritual and material
(the body) level? T: My first priority in every yoga class is
to offer the highest consciousness and vibration that I am able to be
in tune with. After 18 years of public lecturing on the Science of Raja
Yoga while as a monk (and now every day in my yoga classes, although
I do not like the word "lecture", a better word is "inspiration"),
I feel closest to God when I open my heart and let Her speak through
my voice. So in some ways, these classes are "Spirit" led.
The flow is never the same. We tune in with the yogi's attending and
want only the highest holistic experience for them as souls temporarily
housed in physical bodies. The styles, the breathing, and the poses
in each class all flow from one supreme purpose: awareness of Source
-- physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually. You could say
I like to start at the very top (the highest consciousness) and at the
very bottom ( the focus of grounding in the body through extreme mindfulness
on breath and basic alignments in the poses) all at the same time throughout
the entire class.
Y: I understand you are a passionate surfer! Please
tell us about surfing ? Are there similarities between surfing and yoga?
T: Remember what I said earlier. One of my earliest passions was for
sports. I could have played college baseball or played professional
golf. When I started surfing at 14 years old, that was it. There is
nothing like the ocean for me. It is vast, ever-changing and a Force
of Nature unlike any other. Every day the ocean has a different mood
and every wave is different. One needs all the qualities that make for
a great athlete: poise, agility, strength, flexibility, fast instincts,
power, timing and a "go for it" attitude. There can be no
hesitation in big surf. When I was younger I used to drive many miles
in search of the best waves for that day. Now, I don't care about the
waves. I drive to one spot only: Swami's, named after my guru, Paramahansa
Yogananda. I surf right underneath the ashram that I entered into in
1974. I just love the ocean. She is divine mother to me. I live and
paddle on Her surface and she lives in, around and beneath me. I am
the wave: She is my ocean. I am a bubble and only She can make me the
eternal sea of divine joy. On a more practical note: I am a fire sign
and I need to "cool" off every day!
Y: What does your average day look like? T:
Trish and I get up at 6:30 and meditate for over an hour. I then journal
and write. I make a protein health drink then go off to teach yoga.
After that I either have a meeting or go surfing. After that, interview,
counseling or more meetings. Before dinner I meditate again. I only
teach one evening class during the week. On those evenings I am off
I tend to emails and writing. On weekends we are totally busy with classes,
trainings, programs and weddings. And this year more time will be dedicated
to writing our book.
Y: What would you like to communicate to the people
reading this interview? T: I would like to tell you how I would
love to meet you and have you join us for a yoga class, a retreat, a
"Yoga school of Life" seminar; a teacher training; an evening
with the community; or (and I like to think big) a lifetime of spiritual
practice and growth together! I would also like to tell you that even
if we never met physically in this life, we can still meet in Spirit
when we sit down to meditate. That is the best place to meet-- soul
to soul, heart to heart. Time and space are no barriers to divine love.
Open your heart to love and give this pure love back to Divine Mother
over and over again. I will see you in Her universal arms!